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Baby its cold outside (banned)

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PortSide

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Well, new heights of silly (paid people) in the CBC have banned this song because of a reference to get cozy over a few drinks. This ban started in the US at some radio stations. To the credit of Canadians the move by CBC has been huge ... in condemnation and ridicule.

"Baby, It's Cold Outside" has been considered a holiday classic ever since it won the Academy Award for best original song in the film "Neptune's Daughter."
It's since been covered countless times by singers Ray Charles and Betty Carter, Idina Menzel and Michael Buble, as well as Dolly Parton and Rod Stewart."
 

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Meh, I feel like people are too over-reactive to these kinds of things. The PC crowd gets a win occasionally.. the world changes with each new decade. Always has, always will

But Trump is still president, Jim Jefferies is still selling out venues, and Brock Turner is living his life outside of prison..

So a song doesn't play on CBC, I'll still wake up tomorrow the same. Might even rewatch a Jim Jefferies special.
 

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Next will be Rudolf the "Red Nose Reindeer" because it has lyrics pertaining to bullying or "Away in a Manger" because it stereotypes homeless people :Doh!:
RED NOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!! (operation red nose ) ''drunken caribou!!! REMOVE THEM FROM OUR QUARTERS......while we are at it ! remove the beaver from the nickel... OOH! I SEE THIS POST AND THREADS TAKING ON A LIFE OF ITS OWN !
 

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Listened to the song the other day in conjunction with the video of it and yes, I can see where there might be concern but heck, there's way worse crap out there in those days and far, far worse today. I'll keep singing it ( have Wife's permission ) with a clear conscience.
Censorship of music has been going on for ever. A couple of examples from many of our childhoods:
Johnny Horton singing about the "bloody British" in the Battle of New Orleans. Many stations refused to play it or bleeped out "bloody."
Barry McGuire singing "take a look at Selma Alabama" referring to the hate in the World in Eve of Destruction. Many Deep South stations refused to play the song.
Ed Sullivan in 1967 insisting that the Stones sing "lets spend some time together" instead of "let's spend the night together."
I remember my then 5 year old Grandaughter giving me heck for saying poop as "Auntie so and so says poop is a bad word." Texted my Daughter telling her that because of this I will now refer to "poop" when talking to my Grand Girl as "a huge heaping pile of (**)."
 

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What station was it that wouldn't let Johnny Cash sing the line "wishing lord, that I was stoned" performing live...

..of course when he saw Kris K sitting in the crowd.. he wasn't about to butcher his song....

I believe Johnny was then banned from performing on said station again.
 

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And then there was the refusal to play Jimmy Dean's "One hell of a man" in 'Big Bad John'
so he had to change it to 'One heck of a man' which was simply knit picking foolish. It took
many years before the original song was aired again. As was pointed out, there are so many
'singers and artists' rapping out totally vulgar, obscene, and sexually explicit stuff all over
the entertainment world now....far worse than anything done in the past that is being
criticized by the 'politically correct busybodies of today.
 

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What is obscene is the mixing of all of the blacks and whites and colors (this is a metaphor for differences and not skin color) that make this world interesting and trying to make everything a boring, uninspiring grey
 

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Cheryl and kid had the word cocaine bleeped by some stations and videos in their duet "Picture"


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“It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so f&%$ing what."
- Stephen Fry, The Guardian, 5 June 2005
 

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Are people really more easily offended?

Or is it just different things?

Old people get upset by "slutty clothing", cursing, the smell of weed, gay kissing in movies, wearing ball caps inside.... the list goes on and on.
 

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From a selfish stand point... I actually kinda love the over PC crowd.

My whole teenage years were filled with older people getting mad/offended by my music, clothes, speech, attitude... basically telling me to change everything I liked to fit an image they wanted...

Now 20years old kids are doing the same thing to the people that did it to me.. and it's driving the old people crazy. Cracks me right up!

Maybe I'm a bit of a d^*k, but it gets a good laugh from me haha
 

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imho people are generally more tolerant and less offended now than they were in the past......but there is a new group of people who make PC their lifes pursuit semantically arguing "it might offend someone" about too many things
 
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“It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so f&%$ing what."
- Stephen Fry, The Guardian, 5 June 2005
I really like this response!!
 

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You are so right Nov I offended people by riding a chopper, wearing leather, cowboy boots, and T shirts, driving a loud "hot rod" etc. But back in the day it was people bit*hing to their cronies but it was never forced on others who did not believe it was offensive. Now a days with social media etc it is forced on us whether we believe it or not. I have only one thing to say.
Happy Holidays

MERRY CHRISTMAS
EVERY ONE
 

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I dunno, did people get visibly and publicly offended by others wearing a crucifix around the neck or wishing someone Merry Christmas or being called a 'he' or 'she 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago?
 

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I dunno, did people get visibly and publicly offended by others wearing a crucifix around the neck or wishing someone Merry Christmas or being called a 'he' or 'she 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago?
where I grew up there was a very active pecking order where you would get beat up for things like glasses or braces for running shoes that were too new, for looking at someone the wrong way.....for getting a hair cut...for wearing patches on jeans...for taking the wrong route home from school...for showing up someone bigger than you in any way....for having a name that rhymes with anything nasty....need I go on!!!!
 

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Best thing I ever seen was a "tough" picking on a very vulnerable kid. One of the girls in our group told the Bully to F off and cut him down for the possible size of his manhood. He pushed her, big mistake before we knew it he was on the ground crying with blood streaming from his nose. Never pi$$ of a 98 lb kick boxer. lol
 

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I think the culture we are describing here is Snowflake or Snowflake Generation:

1) a person perceived by others to have an inflated sense of uniqueness or an unwarranted sense of entitlement, or to be over-emotional, easily offended, and unable to deal with opposing opinions.

2) a neologistic term used to characterize the young adults of the 2010s as being more prone to taking offense and less resilient than previous generations, or as being too emotionally vulnerable to cope with views that challenge their own.
 

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I dunno, did people get visibly and publicly offended by others wearing a crucifix around the neck or wishing someone Merry Christmas or being called a 'he' or 'she 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago?
No, and I couldn't care less if they're offended when I call people 'he', 'she', father, mother,
girl, boy, young man or young lady today and tomorrow.
 

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And then......... AND THEN!!..........Tonights news a city councilor is suggesting the city shouldn't spend money on Christmas decorations because they may be discriminatory !
Snow flakes symbols are okay though he says

True stuff!
 

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its just this dam social media...who heard you 30 years ago if you went outside and shouted ..THAT OFFENDS ME . non of this crap would have ever made the news . now adays if people actually had to work for a living they might be to tired to be offended .
 

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What these 'self righteous' people don't consider or take into account is the tone
to which words, and statements are made. Just about any word or phrase can
be used to offend, or to simply be a term of endearment if used in a specific tone.
As an example, black people can use extremely racist words among themselves and
it's considered friendly bantering....those same words used by others is considered
offensive.
 

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What these 'self righteous' people don't consider or take into account is the tone
to which words, and statements are made. Just about any word or phrase can
be used to offend, or to simply be a term of endearment if used in a specific tone.
As an example, black people can use extremely racist words among themselves and
it's considered friendly bantering....those same words used by others is considered
offensive.
When I coached Minor Hockey in East Van we had kids that represented every Continent except Antarctica but I had a hard time getting used to what the players would call each other - and that was their own team members. The "N" word, the "Chi**" word, various comments about gender and such. As you said, terms of endearment. They all got along but look out if the opposing team used that language on our Team.
Had a big FN kid on the Team and we were in Hope one night playing. At one point our "C" skated over and said "Coach, some of the Hope players are calling Vance a Wagon Burner and a Bow and Arrow." I said "Joe, look at the Hope fans and half their players, they are FN's too. Ignore it."
 

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my grandson listens to rap . can`t beleave these rappers are using words like niggers...dam THAT OFFENDS ME
Apparently its OK to say crap like "Kill Whitey" in a rap "song" but not try to keep your girlfriend from going out in the cold to freeze to death:What?:
 

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sanity prevails


CBC reinstates Baby, It's Cold Outside amid audience reaction
Citing audience input, CBC has reversed its decision to remove the holiday track Baby, It's Cold Outside from seasonal playlists.
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Duet penned in 1944 came under scrutiny for what some consider to be inappropriate lyrics
CBC News · Posted: Dec 11, 2018 12:39 PM ET | Last Updated: an hour ago


Baby, It's Cold Outside has been performed by celebrities from Ray Charles to Michael Bublé. In the 1949 film Neptune's Daughter, it was performed by Esther Williams and Ricardo Montalban. (MGM/YouTube)
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Citing audience input, CBC has reversed its decision to remove the holiday track Baby, It's Cold Outside from seasonal playlists.
"Last week, we decided to press pause to consider the different points of view on playing Baby, It's Cold Outside. Because we value our audience input, which was overwhelmingly to include the song, we have put it back on the two playlists where it had been removed," Chuck Thompson, CBC's head of public affairs, said in a statement Tuesday.
"Appreciating not everyone interprets lyrics the same way, listeners may wish to skip the song as we understand not everyone will agree with this decision."

In the last few years, the winter-season duet penned in 1944 has come under increased scrutiny for what some consider to be inappropriate lyrics.
In late November, a Cleveland radio station announced it had stopped playing Baby, It's Cold Outside in response to listeners who took issue with the call-and-response tune, in which one singer attempts to cajole the other to stick around and not leave.
Other U.S. stations followed suit, though several — including stations in San Francisco and Denver — have also added the tune back onto their playlists after conducting listener polls.
Last week, CBC and two other broadcasters noted the song had been removed from their musical rotations this year, sparking multiple headlines, opinion pieces and vigorous debate on social media. The controversy also appeared to send different versions of the song up holiday sales and streaming charts, according to music outlet Billboard.
Bell Media, which runs a pair of 24-hour Christmas stations, said it hadn't included Baby, It's Cold Outside on its playlist this year and didn't plan to reintroduce it in the future, according to a spokesperson.
Rogers, which operates several all-Christmas music stations, said last week it had removed the song without noting a reason why. There is no change to the earlier decision, Caitlin Decarie, communications manager for Rogers Radio, said Tuesday afternoon.
 
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